WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
37%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Stubbo 1:59 Thu Nov 9
Which of our players won't get with the programme?
Ironmike reports today that Arnautovic is already whining about the new training methods employed and that Sullivan has told him he has full authority to deal with it.

No surprise since the bloke seems a lazy sulky arsehole from his body language (and apparently Slav had been rebuffed when trying to get him to pull his finger out too).

Which other of our players will cry hardship when it comes to a more bootcamp mentality...delicate little flowers that they are!?

- Arnautovic
- Carroll
- Sakho

...is my guess.

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, 3:10 Fri Nov 10
Re: Which of our players won't get with the programme?
It is a physiological fact that one of the first signs of tiredness is concentration lapsing. The fitter you are the longer you will stay alert. When the brain gets the hint that the limbs are tiring it persuades the body to take the less energetic option, like going for a risky winner to end a long tennis rally for example.

it is obvious why the team have been deliberately running less far and making fewer sprints than others because as we now can see they were saving energy to retain concentration for the whole 90 minutes.

zico 3:08 Fri Nov 10
Re: Which of our players won't get with the programme?
I don't mind so much if people don't train as well as they could as long as they did it on the Saturday. Ok it's a different era but McAvennie and Dicksy weren't exactly the best trainers but still did it on the day.

TCHammer444 2:30 Fri Nov 10
Re: Which of our players won't get with the programme?
Fitness & mental toughness for 90 mins (especially last 10 mins) are the key issues for Moyes to address.

We've lost 7 x points, from winning or drawing positions, in the last 5 minutes of games this season.

Had the team seen those out, then Bilic would be sat 8th in the League table at the moment and he would still be in a job.

Eggbert Nobacon 2:13 Fri Nov 10
Re: Which of our players won't get with the programme?
from the standard -

""ndeed Moyes and Arnautovic have not spoken since the manager’s appointment on Tuesday and the pair will sit down for talks next week after the 28-year-old returns from international duty with Austria.""



https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/david-moyes-ready-to-offer-marko-arnautovic-a-clean-slate-after-slow-start-to-west-ham-career-a3687856.html

One McAvennieeeeee 12:23 Fri Nov 10
Re: Which of our players won't get with the programme?
We get it - He won you some money ffs.

Stubbo 12:22 Fri Nov 10
Re: Which of our players won't get with the programme?
More likely:

- Arnie Strops
- Moyes Rings Arnie
- Arnie bleats
- Moyes rings Sulli to inform, seek authority to discipline
- Sulli blabs
- Source tells IRONMIKE

ExWHU mentioned this week also that Bilic had asked Arnie to do a load of sprint training as he wasn't getting away from his man. Arnie told him where to go, and Bilic let it go.

No smoke without fire.

Eggbert Nobacon 12:14 Fri Nov 10
Re: Which of our players won't get with the programme?
were they speaking on some sort of party line then?

simon.s 12:06 Fri Nov 10
Re: Which of our players won't get with the programme?
He doesn’t seem the type to act like a cunt, does he?

Takashi Miike 12:06 Fri Nov 10
Re: Which of our players won't get with the programme?
eggbert, allardyce said there are a number of grasses at the club yesterday. should be easy to work out who they are, especially as loads are off with their national teams

Eggbert Nobacon 12:04 Fri Nov 10
Re: Which of our players won't get with the programme?
I'm more impressed that either Arnautovic or Moyes then rang ironmike to tell him about their private conversation

talk about sources

Takashi Miike 12:02 Fri Nov 10
Re: Which of our players won't get with the programme?
*strop*



strap? hahaha

Takashi Miike 12:02 Fri Nov 10
Re: Which of our players won't get with the programme?
turned up to training, says he ain't running for no cunt, moyes rings him that evening to ask what the strap was for, gets told to fuck off, stroppy bollocks goes on international duty?



happy days :. (

Eggbert Nobacon 11:33 Fri Nov 10
Re: Which of our players won't get with the programme?
and is in none of the numerous pics and vids of Moyes first day training

Eggbert Nobacon 11:31 Fri Nov 10
Re: Which of our players won't get with the programme?
yet yesterday says he'll give Moyes 100%

Fiftiesman 11:31 Fri Nov 10
Re: Which of our players won't get with the programme?
Agree to some extent. However fitness and stamina are both aspects that can be improved within a couple of weeks, whereas other skills - given they are withing the players' scope - may take longer.

Andy Murray too focused heavily on fiteness and strength which added to his performance when younger.

Stubbo 11:30 Fri Nov 10
Re: Which of our players won't get with the programme?
Per IRONMIKE, he was there for the first day of training, had a phone row that evening with Moyes, and then departed for Austria.

The bloke was spot on with Moyes coming in last Thursday and seems pretty well connected.

Eggbert Nobacon 11:25 Fri Nov 10
Re: Which of our players won't get with the programme?
He was with them yesterday when he did this interview so I assume all week

https://www.skysportaustria.at/nationalteam-at/marko-arnautovic-ueber-kritik-ich-kann-damit-leben/

Trevor B 11:08 Fri Nov 10
Re: Which of our players won't get with the programme?
Eggy

players whose international teams play tonight met up the other day, those that arent playing until tuesday dont have to be there until tomorrow i think, that's when Rice meets up with the RoI u21s anyway.

Eggbert Nobacon 11:02 Fri Nov 10
Re: Which of our players won't get with the programme?
He's away with Austria ahead of their match with uraguay on Tuesday surely?

Justin P 9:43 Fri Nov 10
Re: Which of our players won't get with the programme?
I'm not joking but who else saw this in pre-Season?

Kouyate posted up a picture on instagram of Fernandes eating his lunch in the canteen in Austria!

There were 4 plates on food in front of him including a plate of chips, the chips were piled up on top of what can be only described as chinese food!

normannomates 4:35 Fri Nov 10
Re: Which of our players won't get with the programme?
I could stack up the International honours of comparible Countries...but I can't be arsed unlike some sad sacs on here.

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